Kathleen said that her principles have been, "It was all going to work out eventually," and "Let's not worry about it."
"It's not simply one decision or two, because if we simply try to do it by decisions, it's like playing whack-a-mole," Sethi said.
He walked the couple through a few exercises to see how they feel and think about money.
They want to feel proud, empowered and like they actually are as well off as their salary and lifestyle suggests.
They say they're committed to making the necessary changes to get there, but they also accepted that it's not going to be easy...
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